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Imprecise Geographical Places


Table of Contents
Mountains Pyrenees
The Alps
Rivers TAG and Po (Italy)
River Rhone (France and Germany)
River Loire (France)
River Thames (UK)
River Garonne (France)
Rivers Rhine and Danube
Other named rivers
Rivers not named



Introduction

This section concerns cities, towns, imprecise places and mountains. The criteria for regrouping the quatrains are based on some identified keywords.

Mountains Pyrenees

10.11  Pyrens (referring to either Pyrenees or Pyrus)
"At the dangerous passage below Junquera,"
The posthumous one will have his band cross:
"To pass the Pyrenees mountains without his baggage,"
From Perpignan the duke will hasten to Tende.

2.74  Pyrenees
"From Sens, from Autun they will come as far as the Rhone"
To pass beyond towards the Pyrenees mountains:
The nation to leave the March of Ancona:
By land and sea it will be followed by great suites.

3.62  Pyrenees
"Near the Douro by the closed Tyrian sea,"
He will come to pierce the great Pyrenees mountains.
"One hand shorter his opening glosses,"
He will lead his traces to Carcassone.

4.2  Pyrenees
"Because of death France will take to making a journey,"
"Fleet by sea, marching over the Pyrenees Mountains,"
"Spain in trouble, military people marching:"
Some of the greatest Ladies carried off to France.

4.70  Pyrenees
"Quite contiguous to the great Pyrenees mountains,"
One to direct a great army against the Eagle:
"Veins opened, forces exterminated,"
As far as Pau will he come to chase the chief.

4.94  Pyrenees
"Two great brothers will be chased out of Spain,"
The elder conquered under the Pyrenees mountains:
"The sea to redden, Rh¶ne, bloody Lake Geneva from Germany,"
"Narbonne, BÚziers contaminated by Agde."

6.1  Pyrenees
Around the Pyrenees mountains a great throng
Of foreign people to aid the new King:
"Near the great temple of Le Mas by the Garonne,"
A Roman chief will fear him in the water.

6.99  Pyrenees
"The learned enemy will find himself confused,"
"His great army sick, and defeated by ambushes,"
"The Pyrenees and Pennine Alps will be denied him,"
Discovering near the river ancient jugs.

A5708  Pyrenees
From the great court banished, conflict, hurt
Elected, rendered, accused, morn. Rebel
At fire city Pyr. Waters, venoms, hurried,
Not to vogue at sea, not to make the Latin mad.

9.64  Pyrenees
"The Macedonian to pass the Pyrenees mountains,"
In March Narbonne will not offer resistance:
"By land and sea he will carry on very great intrigue,"
Capetian having no land safe for residence.

H038  Pyrenees
The one second in age, accompanied by the Latins, will penetrate far, until a second furious and trembling path has been beaten to the Great St. Bernard Pass. From there he will descend to mount the Pyrenees, which will not, however, be transferred to the French crown. And this third one will cause a great inundation of human blood, and for a long time Lent will not include March.

The Alps

These quatrains seem to belong to history and describe the events of Marius, Cesar and Napoleon in turn crossing the Alps.

3.43  Rome, Apennine Mountains, tomb, black
"People from around the Tarn, Lot and Garonne"
Beware of passing the Apennine mountains:
"Your tomb near Rome and Ancona,"
The black frizzled beard will have a trophy set up.

7.31  Alps, Guyenne, Languedoc
From Languedoc and Guienne more than ten
thousand will want to cross the Alps again.
"The great Savoyards march against Brindisi,"
Aquino and Bresse will come to drive them back.

3.33  Alps
"In the city where the wolf will enter,"
Very near there will the enemies be:
Foreign army will spoil a great country.
The friends will pass at the wall and Alps.

6.28  Alps, Celt, Rome, exiled, great pastor, great celtic
"The great Celt will enter Rome,"
Leading a throng of the exiled and banished:
The great Pastor will put to death every man
Who was united at the Alps for the cock.

7.20  Alps, Gaule
Ambassadors of the Tuscan language
will cross the Alps and the sea in April and May.
"The man of the calf will deliver an oration,"
not coming to wipe out the French way of life.

5.68  Danube, Rhine, Rosne, Loire, Coq Alps
In the Danube and of the Rhine will come to drink
"The great Camel, not repenting it:"
"Those of the Rh¶ne to tremble, and much more so those of the Loire,"
and near the Alps the Cock will ruin him.

5.20  Monster, Alps
"The great army will pass beyond the Alps,"
Shortly before will be born a monster scoundrel:
Prodigious and sudden he will turn
The great Tuscan to his nearest place.

3.39  Seven, three, triumvire, Alps
The seven in three months in agreement
To subjugate the Apennine Alps:
"But the tempest and cowardly Ligurian,"
Destroys them in sudden ruins.

Rivers TAG and Po (Italy)

The insistence with which Nostradamus refers to these two rivers must have a reason.

8.61  Armed Region is Tag armifere, River, Cock gift of Tag.
Never by the revelation of daylight
will he attain the mark of the scepter bearer.
"Until all his sieges are at rest,"
bringing to the Cock the gift of the armed legion.

Posted by: John
Tag refers to the Italian river

3.12  Tag. - River
"Because of the swelling of the Ebro, Po, Tagus, Tiber and Rh¶ne"
"And because of the pond of Geneva and Arezzo,"
"The two great chiefs and cities of the Garonne,"
"Taken, dead, drowned: human booty divided."

2.60  Tag - River
"The Punic faith broken in the East,"
"Ganges, Jordan, and Rhone, Loire, and Tagus will change:"
"When the hunger of the mule will be satiated,"
"Fleet sprinkles, blood and bodies will swim."

2.63  Po. - River
"The Gauls Ausonia will subjugate very little,"
"Po, Marne and Seine Parma will make drunk:"
"He who will prepare the great wall against them,"
He will lose his life from the least at the wall.

2.33  Po. - River
Through the torrent which descends from Verona
"Its entry will then be guided to the Po,"
"A great wreck, and no less in the Garonne,"
When those of Genoa march against their country.

2.94  Po. - River
"Great Po, great evil will be received through Gauls,"
Vain terror to the maritime Lion:
"People will pass by the sea in infinite numbers,"
Without a quarter of a million escaping.

2.26  Po. - River
Because of the favor that the city will show
"To the great one who will soon lose the field of battle,"
"Fleeing the Po position, the Ticino will overflow"
"With blood, fires, deaths, drowned by the long-edged blow."

7.30  Po - Rivers
"The sack approaches, fire and great bloodshed."
"Po the great rivers, the enterprise for the clowns;"
"after a long wait from Genoa and Nice,"
"Fossano, Turin the capture at Savigliano."

River Rhone (France and Germany)

A5512  Rhosne, snow, ice, wind rain, death
The port protests too fraudulently and false,
The maw opened, condition of peace:
Rhone in crystal, water, snow, ice stained,
The death, death, wind, through rain the burden broken.

2.25  Loyre, son.Rhone (Rosne in French), Gar
"The foreign guard will betray the fortress,"
Hope and shadow of a higher marriage:
"Guard deceived, fort seized in the press,"
"Loire, Saone, Rhone, Garonne, mortal outrage."

8.46  Rhone (Rosne in French), Cock & Eagle, three brothers
"Paul the celibate will die three leagues from Rome,"
the two nearest flee the oppressed monster.
"When Mars will take up his horrible throne,"
"the Cock and the Eagle, France and the three brothers."

8.38  Rhone (Rosne in French), wall
"The King of Blois will reign in Avignon,"
once again the people covered in blood.
In the Rh¶ne he will make swim
"near the walls up to five, the last one near Nolle."

5.68  Danube, Rhine, Rhone (Rosne in French), Loire, Cock Alps
In the Danube and of the Rhine will come to drink
"The great Camel, not repenting it:"
"Those of the Rh¶ne to tremble, and much more so those of the Loire,"
and near the Alps the Cock will ruin him.

5.17  Rhone (Rosne in French)
"By night the King passing near an Alley,"
He of Cyprus and the principal guard:
"The King mistaken, the hand flees the length of the Rh¶ne,"
The conspirators will set out to put him to death.

8.62  Rhone (Rosne in French), Temple
"When one sees the holy temple plundered,"
the greatest of the Rh¶ne profaning their sacred things;
"because of them a very great pestilence will appear,"
"the king, unjust, will not condemn them."

4.76  Rhone (Rosne in French), Templars (crusaders)
The people of Agen by those of PÚrigord
"Will be vexed, holding as far as the Rh¶ne:"
The union of Gascons and Bigorre
"To betray the temple, the priest giving his sermon."

2.96  Rhone (Rosne in French), Burning torch
Burning torch will be seen in the sky at night
Near the end and beginning of the Rhone:
"Famine, steel: the relief provided late,"
Persia turns to invade Macedonia.

9.85  Rhone (Rosne in French), Phocen (Marseille)
"To pass Guienne, Languedoc and the Rh¶ne,"
From Agen holding Marmande and La RÚole:
"To open through faith the wall, Marseilles will hold its throne,"
Conflict near Saint-Paul-de-Mausole.

4.3  Rhone (Rosne in French)
"From Arras and Bourges many banners of Dusky Ones,"
"A greater number of Gascons to fight on foot,"
Those along the Rh¶ne will bleed the Spanish:
Near the mountain where Sagunto sits.

2.74  Rhone (Rosne in French), Pyrenees
"From Sens, from Autun they will come as far as the Rhone"
To pass beyond towards the Pyrenees mountains:
The nation to leave the March of Ancona:
By land and sea it will be followed by great suites.

4.94  Rhone (Rosne in French), Pyrenees
"Two great brothers will be chased out of Spain,"
The elder conquered under the Pyrenees mountains:
"The sea to redden, Rh¶ne, bloody Lake Geneva from Germany,"
"Narbonne, BÚziers contaminated by Agde."

5.71  Rhone (Rosne in French)
"By the fury of one who will wait for the water,"
By his great rage the entire army moved:
"Seventeen boats loaded with the noble,"
The messenger come late along the Rh¶ne.

7.22  Rhone (Rosne in French)
The citizens of Mesopotamia
angry with their friends from Tarraconne;
"games, rites, banquets, every person asleep,"
"the vicar at Rh¶ne, the city taken and those of Ausonia."

9.68  Rosene and Soane
"The noble of Mount Aymar will be made obscure,"
The evil will come at the junction of the Sa¶ne and Rh¶ne:
"Soldiers hidden in the woods on Lucy's day,"
Never was there so horrible a throne.

River Loire (France)

9.21  Loire, Temple
"At the tall temple of Saint-Solenne at Blois,"
"Night Loire bridge, Prelate, King killing outright:"
"Crushing victory in the marshes of the pond,"
Whence prelacy of whites miscarrying.

1.89  Loire, Spain
"Those of Lerida will be in the Moselle,"
kill all those from the Loire and Seine.
"The seaside track will come near the high valley,"
when the Spanish open every route.

River Thames (UK)

6.43  Thames, Seine, Marne
"For a long time will she remain uninhabited,"
Around where the Seine and the Marne she comes to water:
"Tried by the Thames and warriors,"
The guards deceived in trusting in the repulse.

A5510  Thames, maybe London
Venus Neptune will pursue the enterprise,
Pensive one imprisoned, adversaries troubled:
Fleet in the Adriatic, cities towards the Thames,
The fourth clamor, by night, the reposing ones wounded.

8.37  Thames maybe London
The fortress near the Thames
will fall when the king is locked up inside.
"He will be seen in his shirt near the bridge,"
one facing death then barred inside the fortress.

6.43  Thames maybe London
"For a long time will she remain uninhabited,"
Around where the Seine and the Marne she comes to water:
"Tried by the Thames and warriors,"
The guards deceived in trusting in the repulse.

River Garonne (France)

8.2  Garonne, lightning, Hail, Lighting (fire) from the sky
"Condom and Auch and around Mirande,"
I see fire from the sky which encompasses them.
"Sun and Mars conjoined in Leo, then at Marmande,"
"lightning, great hail, a wall falls into the Garonne."

8.35  Garonne, frost, Hail and wind
At the entrance to Garonne and Baise
"and the forest not far from Damazan,"
"discoveries of the frozen sea, then hail and north winds."
Frost in the Dardonnais through the mistake of the month.

6.1  Garonne, Pyrenees
Around the Pyrenees mountains a great throng
Of foreign people to aid the new King:
"Near the great temple of Le Mas by the Garonne,"
A Roman chief will fear him in the water.

9.37  Garonne, Toulouse, floods
"Bridge and mills overturned in December,"
The Garonne will rise to a very high place:
"Walls, edifices, Toulouse overturned,"
So that none will know his place like a matron.

6.79  Garonne, Soane, Seine
"Near the Ticino the inhabitants of the Loire,"
"Garonne and Sa¶ne, the Seine, the Tain and Gironde:"
"They will erect a promontory beyond the mountains,"
"Conflict given, Po enlarged, submerged in the wave."

Rivers Rhine and Danube

4.68  Hister=Danube, Rhin
"The two greatest ones of Asia and of Africa,"
"From the Rhine and Lower Danube they will be said to have come,"
"Cries, tears at Malta and the Ligurian side."

6.49  Danube, Great pontif - decline
The great Pontiff of the party of Mars
Will subjugate the confines of the Danube:
"The cross to pursue, through sword hook or crook,"
"Captives, gold, jewels more than one hundred thousand rubies."

2.24  German child (in French R in child - Rhine) - Rhine - Hister
Beasts ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers:
"The greater part of the region will be against the Hister,"
"The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage,"
When the German child will observe nothing.

6.87  Rhine, Milan, Frankfort
The election made in Frankfort
"Will be voided, Milan will be opposed:"
The follower closer will seem so very strong
That he will drive him out into the marshes beyond the Rhine.

5.43  Rhine, Naples, Sicily, Cologne
"The great ruin of the holy things is not far off,"
"Provence, Naples, Sicily, SÚes and Pons:"
"In Germany, at the Rhine and Cologne,"
Vexed to death by all those of Mainz.

5.12  Rhine, Lake Geneva (referred to by Europeans as Leman)
"To near the Lake of Geneva will it be conducted,"
By the foreign maiden wishing to betray the city:
"Before its murder at Augsburg the great suite,"
And those of the Rhine will come to invade it.

6.40  Rhine
To quench the great thirst the great one of Mainz
Will be deprived of his great dignity:
Those of Cologne will come to complain so loudly
That the great rump will be thrown into the Rhine.

Other named rivers

6.79  Garonne, Soane, Seine
"Near the Ticino the inhabitants of the Loire,"
"Garonne and Sa¶ne, the Seine, the Tain and Gironde:"
"They will erect a promontory beyond the mountains,"
"Conflict given, Po enlarged, submerged in the wave."

Rivers not named

1.87  River, Shaking and volcanic phenomena around the new city (Fr. "neusue").
Earthshaking fire from the center of the earth
will cause tremors around the New City.
"Two great rocks will war for a long time,"
then Arethusa will redden a new river.

Posted by: Laury
The "Great New City" responds to the description of Rome and at other times to New York.

Posted by: RaulentRoi

La Grand Cité semble tantôt répondre aux caractéristiques de New York et tantôt de Rome.


2.35  Two rivers
"The fire by night will take hold in two lodgings,"
Several within suffocated and roasted.
It will happen near two rivers as one:
"Sun, Sagittarius and Capricorn all will be reduced."

2.57  Great Conflict, River
"Before the conflict the great wall will fall,"
"The great one to death, death too sudden and lamented,"
Born imperfect: the greater part will swim:
Near the river the land stained with blood.

2.97  Two rivers
Roman Pontiff beware of approaching
"The city that two rivers flow through,"
"Near there your blood will come to spurt,"
You and yours when the rose will flourish.

Posted by: Raul Lence King
Quatrain commonly known to describe John-Paul 2 at the moment of the Socialists arrival in power in France (1981), An original murder attempt should have taken place in Lyon or Avignon - which would have caused the pope's security services to postpone the trip during 4 days. The attempted murder happened in Rome a few weeks later. Facts to be verified.

3.72  Great River, ransom gold
"The good old man buried quite alive,"
Near the great river through false suspicion:
"The new old man ennobled by riches,"
Captured on the road all his gold for ransom.

3.20  River Guadalquivir, Islam Invasion of Spain
Through the regions of the great river Guadalquivir
Deep in Iberia to the Kingdom of Grenada
Crosses beaten back by the Mahometan peoples
One of Cordova will betray his country

3.61  Sects, River, Mesopotamia, crusading (Fr."crucigère") - link with Virgins, candles, Cross
The great band and sect of crusaders
Will be arrayed in Mesopotamia:
"Light company of the nearby river,"
That such law will hold for an enemy.

4.17  River
"To change at Beaune, Nuits, ChÔlon and Dijon,"
The duke wishing to improve the Carmelite [nun]
"Marching near the river, fish, diver's beak"
Will see the tail: the gate will be locked.

4.80  Great River
"Near the great river, great ditch, earth drawn out,"
In fifteen parts will the water be divided:
"The city taken, fire, blood, cries, sad conflict,"
And the greatest part involving the coliseum.

5.98  River Bearn and Bigorre
"At the forty-eighth climacteric degree,"
At the end of Cancer very great dryness:
"Fish in sea, river, lake boiled hectic,"
"BÚarn, Bigorre in distress through fire from the sky."

Posted by: John
Looks just like an atomic attack.

6.3  River, Empire
The river that tries the new Celtic heir
Will be in great discord with the Empire:
The young Prince through the ecclesiastical people
Will remove the scepter of the crown of concord.

6.4  River Celtic
"The Celtic river will change its course,"
No longer will it include the city of Agrippina:
"All changed except the old language,"
"Saturn, Leo, Mars, Cancer in plunder."

6.27  5 Rivers - Country of 5 Rivers=Pendjab, Croissant (crescent), Chyren, Selin
"Within the Isles of five rivers to one,"
Through the expansion of the great Chyren Selin:
"Through the drizzles in the air the fury of one,"
"Six escaped, hidden bundles of flax."

6.33  Black, two Rivers
"His last hand through sanguinary,"
He will be unable to protect himself by sea:
"Between two rivers he will fear the military hand,"
The black and irate one will make him rue it.

Posted by: YahnAmar

Sans doute le Tag et le Po


6.52  River, urn (vase)
"In place of the great one who will be condemned,"
"Outside the prison, his friend in his place:"
"The Trojan hope in six months joined, born dead,"
The Sun in the urn rivers will be frozen.

6.98  Temple, River
"Ruin for the Volcae so very terrible with fear,"
"Their great city stained, pestilential deed:"
To plunder Sun and Moon and to violate their temples:
And to redden the two rivers flowing with blood.

6.99  River, Pyrenees
"The learned enemy will find himself confused,"
"His great army sick, and defeated by ambushes,"
"The Pyrenees and Pennine Alps will be denied him,"
Discovering near the river ancient jugs.

8.55  Two Rivers - bring together with PO
"He will find himself shut in between two rivers,"
casks and barrels joined to cross beyond:
"eight bridges broken, their chief run through so many times,"
perfect children's throats slit by the knife.

9.76  Two Rivers - bring together with PO
"With the rapacious and blood-thirsty king,"
Issued from the pallet of the inhuman Nero:
"Between two rivers military hand left,"
He will be murdered by Young Baldy.

A6503  Flood, Rivers
Secret rebellion, dangerous change,
Factions secretly conspire,
Rains, great winds, wounds by the bigheaded,
Flooding rivers, actions to bring plagues.

8.6  Sardon, Cock treason, Brightness and lighting, London, Marius
"Lighting and brightness are seen at Lyons shining,"
"Malta is taken, suddenly it will be extinguished."
"Sardon, Maurice will act deceitfully,"
"Geneva to London, feigning treason towards the cock."

Posted by: John
Gardon may refer to the Gard or one of the many rivers that flow into it.

10.6  Sardon
The Gardon will flood N¯mes so high
That they will believe Deucalion reborn:
"Into the colossus the greater part will flee,"
Vesta tomb fire to appear extinguished.

Posted by: Johny
Vesta Sepulcher fire extinct may be the link between the temple and the ancient lamp. For as long as the event of the Child cannot be identified, the quatrain should be considered to be still to come.

10.6  Sardon, flood - Treasure - Temple & Sepulcher
The Gardon will flood N¯mes so high
That they will believe Deucalion reborn:
"Into the colossus the greater part will flee,"
Vesta tomb fire to appear extinguished.

Posted by: Johny
Vesta Sepulcher fire extinct may be the link between the temple and the ancient lamp. For as long as the event of the Child cannot be identified, the quatrain should be considered to be still to come.

5.58  Gardon
"By the aqueduct of UzÞs over the Gard,"
"Through the forest and inaccessible mountain,"
In the middle of the bridge there will be cut in the fist
The chief of N¯mes who will be very terrible.

A5810  River, treasure
Rain, wind, forces, Barbarossa Hister, the Tyrrhenian Sea,
Vessels to pass Orkneys and beyond Gibraltar, grain and soldiers provided:
Retreats too well executed by Florence, Siena crossed,
The two will be dead, friendships joined.

H104  River, Antichrist, Churchs - Persecution - blood will be spilled
This King will commit incredible crimes against the Church. Human blood will flow in the public streets and temples, like water after an impetuous rain, coloring the nearby rivers red with blood. The ocean itself will be reddened by another naval battle, such that one king will say to another, Naval battles have caused the sea to blush.

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